Wednesday, October 05, 2005

Best Pics So Far and People to Be Commended

This blog has the best pics so far of Katrina Animals. It is all pics
http://justthinkingaboutit.blogspot.com/

My little guy --


This is the little lab/mix I tried to get for 2 weeks and finally got him on the 2nd to last day I was in town. He was trapped in his backyard with another dead dog and he was scared to death. This is his vet visit after being rescued (yes we took dogs to vet)

People to Be Commended

I need to give some credit. It is hard to write a blog and not have people assume all kinds of things. First I always had help. In the case of the dog in the drain pipe, that was a group effort with a bunch of great people from Atlanta....Gigi, Russ and others. In fact only one person could get out with the protective suit to get him. There was some small dispute about what to do with him as we were in a motor home and didn't want to contaminate it. I promise you I was ready to spend the night with him (we were miles and miles from areas that had living people). I would have never given him up after he got out of that pipe. Luckily, some guys drove by and I offered them $250 for the use of the truck. I would have paid whatever they wanted. They accepted and then Billy rode in the back of the truck with contaminated dust and contaminated dog. The great people from Atlanta split the $250 with me. Group effort. Here is a list: Lacey, Matt, Susanne, Billy, Kim, Catherine, Molly, Michelle, Jennifer, Fester, Joey, Lisa, Ashleigh, Joey, Camille, Joan, Tom Muller, Laura and many others that just showed up at the Rite Aid and made a difference. (I am forgetting so many, sorry).

A lady name Dorothy at www.dogdetective.com single handedly organized hundreds of volunteers sending them to Lamar, YMCA and Winn Dixie. She is still at it today. If you fill out her form you usually get a call from her in an hour.

Mark and his wife got hundreds of volunteers and supplies to the Winn Dixie. They are still at it today. He on site and his wife on the Internet. This type of operation was repeated in many locals by tenacious people. Mark rescued 16 animals himself yesterday proof of just how much is needed to do yet.

YMCA was set up and successful long before I came along. Gail and Lee and others had been at it for days (sorry names escape me sometimes). I did jump right in. Lee was the one that started feeding all the dogs instead of taking them. He went to many morning HSUS meetings and finally I think they got the idea as they started doing it to. See his interview with Anderson Cooper here on the blog. The feeding and watering in place and on the streets concept saved thousands of animals and was really great for cats who were hard to catch anyway. You can't drive a block anywhere in the city and not see spray painted marking a feeding and watering station. When they all left YMCA to go home I figured that side of town still needed us so we attempted to work at YMCA but it had gotten very dangerous in town by them. We drove out the very first night and found the Rite Aid which was a perfect spot for a small rescue operation. Very nice piece of land at side of Rite Aid and the owner of the Pit Stop bar treated us like gold from day one. I don't mean drinking I mean bathrooms, ice, water, etc. Nobody had time to drink. I didn't have a single beer in the Pit Stop although I had one or two bought from the outside bar. It usually consisted of me drinking ½ a beer and then losing it as we were still working almost all night. One time I took our two cutest dogs to the outside tables and let some cops play with them and recruited volunteers for the next day. It was amazing how many locals wanted to help once they found out what we were doing...Matt and Susanne who lived near the Pit Stop worked with us full time for a week and are still at it. Susanne had already fostered and adopted 4 dogs and 6 cats in her townhouse and Matt fostered several until owners returned.

Quick aside: How do you get Billy to walk and feed all dogs in record time? Tell him when he is done he can go over to the Pit Stop and shoot 2 games of pool.

What I want to make sure is known is that everything done was a team effort all the time. The Rite Aid thing was great because just about the time we got enough good people we got “found” on the Internet so we got call after call after call from owners who sent us to addresses to check on specific pets.

Internet workers were a huge part of success. They have worked for 30 days or more 15 hours a day plus -- finding supplies, and finding owners who needed houses broken into and now they are all working on reunites. There was an army of these people who got me anything I needed. They were the communication. One post a few hours before Rita and we had 6 people offering us places to ride out the storm.

We had 3 vets near the Rite Aid that were on call. Dr. Abadi never turned us away. We just called on our way in from the field and took them right to his place. He charged me but not much. I insisted on giving him more than he wanted to charge so we felt like we could call him anytime we needed. A lady named Eilleen ran electric and water from her house for us and volunteered at camp many days.

All I am saying is when you look at a picture or hear a story know that dozens of people made that pic happen..actually thousands of people. And hundreds of people like me just showed up and started to work.

All people came for the right reasons but It was a tough and emotional environment. I can say that the 12-15 of us in the end at the Rite Aid got along magnificently. I mean it. We just didn't fight or argue hardly ever (notice I say hardly)

36 Comments:

At 1:57 PM, Anonymous karen said...

YOU ARE AN INSPIRATION. THANK YOU for your compassion. Those of us that couldn't be there but longed to help, appreciate your unselfishness, courage and determination for the animals. There are no words to elonquently say what a special person you are. THANK YOU

 
At 1:57 PM, Blogger Shireen Gonzaga said...

Eric, thanks for the wonderful post. A lot of us in internet-land are eager to help but sometimes don't know the best way to make an effective contribution. If you have suggestions, please let us know -- you have the unique perspective of being there, and your comments will be very valuable.

 
At 2:06 PM, Anonymous Eric Rice said...

Get the State Vet, HSUS and LASPCA to extend the hold time on animals well past October 15th. People have had no time to look for the lost pets. It is very distrurbing.

State Vet (asst)
She is a complete witch so be careful. Dr. Marth Littlefield 225-933-8121 Fax 225-237-5555

 
At 3:17 PM, Blogger michelle said...

My son and I spent some time at Lamar, came as requested by the HSUS. Please understand me when I say this that the animals were cared for, well cared for and that is not at all what I am about to address. However it was nothing but a mess, no one knew what the other hand was doing. The best hope you had there was to find someone who was slightly organized and had a plan and follow them. There were many great organizations there helping however it just was chaos, no other way to put it. Animals were sent all over the country in prep for Rita and if you are looking for a pet I wish you the best of luck because you will surely need it. I can not even begin to describe how confusing it was, I personally couldnt get a straight answer to anything I asked of the President and CEO of the HSUS, no less anyone else. I cant even begin to imagine trying to find my pet through the system in Lamar. The only comfort is that the animals were cared for, but who knows where they are now. The next time some disaster of this magnitude occurs I hope that one org will step up and take charge of the situation better as I am sure lessons were learned. The most important thing should be organization multiplied times 100. Not to mention there were surely people there who really wanted to help more and go rescue more but HSUS had said no. We managed to get 7 dogs and a cat into Lamar on the Friday night that Rita hit but that was pure luck, we were treated like criminals to the point that they were calling security to escort all 8 of us off the property rather then let us stay and help care for the hundreds they had left to care for. I have worked rescue with small grass roots and large orgs but this was crazy.Just insane. I cant even put into words how frustrating it was trying to figure out where we could help the most.

 
At 3:47 PM, Anonymous Eric Rice said...

Ha, Ha. I have to laugh at that night at Lamar as Rita hit. We were woken that morning with a Sherrif Dep for the county using a bullhorn to tell us we had to evacuate to the North. Nobody could go south. It was so surreal, Jane told us to just go work so we went into town (south). Several minutes after we left the order came down "no rescues that day" we kinda knew that was coming but didn't care much. We had tons of people watching the weather and it was not hard to figure out that we were very safe for most of the day. We set a 3:00 deadline to leave the city. Well at 3:00 everyone called with some animal crisis they just could not leave even if the damn hurricane was about to hit us dead on. We finally left at like 7:00. This was pushing it. Things hit the fan just as we got near Gonzales/Lamar. Lots of wind and rain. Some lady at the gas station told us that Lamar and HSUS had implmented the infamous Password system. What a joke. She felt bad for us and gave it to us on the spot. We went to the gate and since we had the password we got right in. Now came the craziness. We pulled up and you could tell we were in a lot of trouble. Nobody had gone out and some crazy lady started going berzerk (others were really nice) about FEMA and evacuations and some list of people that were allowed to sleep at Gonzales and us not being on it. She was from some local HSUS chapter and she was really laying into the girls. We told her to get Jane...and she started screaming Jane who, blah, blah, blah. While she was acting looney this other really nice guy was getting us water and gatorade. She got mad he was being nice to us and told us to get in our cars. He walked over with a case of Gatorade. Realize it was raining so hard you could not see. I was really laughing inside at how bizarre the entire thing was. That is when she took Lacey's sign off her car. You do not take Laceys sign. Lacey had the .38 at the YMCA the night all the thugs started appearing and she is the president of her local Humane Society. Those signs came right back. The they escorted us to the gate. I had a little dog with tags that I kept and they tried to take it. No way was it going in that system to be lost. We went to a parking lot a few miles away and all we could do it sit and wait. I got in the back of the truck and made a very comfortable bed out of a cot we have. It was comfortable because it was the first night with no humidity. I remember thinking this truck is going over and I should at least set the generator outside so when it does it doesn't crush me. But I was so tired and comfortable I just fell asleep. The little dog slept right on the end of the cot. I woke up the next morning to sunny skies and we started buying supplies to set up the YMCA that night. We never really even took a day off from Rita. Later I will tell you how that poor little dog got lost. It is one of my biggest regrets.

 
At 3:48 PM, Anonymous Eric said...

Ok, don't call state vet. They have come out with a plan to extend --sort of.

 
At 4:31 PM, Blogger michelle said...

LOL Thats right Eric I forgot about our happy wake up call from the sherriffs office that morning. That was a trip. Not to mention the lovely experience of it up to me to get them to take our critters that night...glad I didnt know that going in..LOL...The guy that helped us that night was Scott and he was the best.He was always very sweet and helpful whenever I asked him anything and he usually could get an answer..And sleeping in our van that night while Rita hit was an experience. My son was convinced the van was going to blow over..I was exhausted and passed out till 8 the next morning..no stinking hurricane will keep me awake..

 
At 4:50 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great job to you and all those who helped you, Eric.

Where can I find information on the State Vet's (sort of) extension on the web?

 
At 4:52 PM, Anonymous Jen said...

The night before at Lamar was crazy. They just kept taking animals out and putting them in this truck. To where, who knows? That whole day was pretty surreal. I so wish that I just joined you. I saw you leave.

Oh, did you ever find those two dogs that I talk to you about....Iberville and Murat?? You probably don't remember, but if you do-any info would be great because I think the lady I went down with is going back. She was going to check on them unless you had any info.

 
At 4:58 PM, Anonymous Eric Rice said...

I went to Iberville and Murratt. I actually went tow days. The second day I found a super, super, super nice neighbor who said he would be sure to feed them if they came around. He was already feeding 4-5 dogs on the block. But I never say the dogs.

 
At 10:27 PM, Anonymous Jen said...

Ok, thanks Eric. You did amazing work and I really appreciate you taking the time to check on those little guys. If you are still dealing with the cell phone minutes issue, give me a call or shoot me an email jenhoward at gmail.com

 
At 12:18 AM, Anonymous Eric Rice said...

Hi Eric, great work you're doing down there. Since we have the same name, I've posted about your efforts on my blog and will put a link on my main page for people looking for your rescue site.

 
At 6:30 AM, Anonymous Eric Rice said...

Everyone keeps saying I am an HSUS hater. Not true. They were all working hard. Everyone was. All I am saying is they obviously planned on being in the rescue busisiness
long before this? How could that planning not include a "check in" or intake system that allowed animals to be tracked start to finish? It is the first thing anyone would think about.

 
At 11:06 AM, Anonymous Eric Rice said...

Great idea-- 30 days on Petfinder.com when most people I talk to don't have a computer, house, car, etc. Sure the well off "might" find dogs in this mess.
Please call all shelters with Katina pets they have the option of extending the hold times as long as they want. That list is at

National Consensus Recommendations
Interim Plan for National Pet-Owner Reunification

Hurricane Katrina’s broad regional impact and the subsequent catastrophic evacuation of a major metropolitan area in New Orleans has exposed a number of clear deficiencies in national, state, and local emergency plans related to animal protection. Local, state, and federal governmental resources have been and are working with animal welfare organizations and veterinarians to provide relief and recovery actions related to animals affected by this horrific event. As a result of the situation and limited onsite resources, animals were transported out of the affected area to shelters and rescue groups around the country. While these actions may have been necessary under the circumstances, there is clearly a need for a national plan for large scale animal sheltering, as well as interim and long-term plans for pet reunification systems.

Holding Periods for Animals Displaced by Hurricane Katrina

The State Veterinarian and their official partners in the states of Mississippi and Louisiana have provided agreements on holding periods for many of the animals leaving their states for sheltering. Organizations accepting those agreements should abide by their terms as a minimum standard. In addition, state veterinarians in receiving states and individual organizations may wish to impose additional standards related to veterinary care, holding periods, euthanasia, sterilization, and pet-owner reunification efforts.

During that holding period, animals should be listed on the http://petfinder.com Web site. This site provides resources for both animal welfare organizations holding animals and for owners looking for their pets. Organizations holding animals should commit staff and voluntary resources to thoroughly examine the Petfinder site on a regular basis for lost reports from owners that may match animals in the organization’s care. For states without a directive from the state veterinarian and for organizations without a signed agreement from the state of origin, the following recommendations are made for holding animals displaced by Hurricane Katrina:
1. Animals should be listed on the Petfinder Web site for a period of not less than 30 days.
2. Animals should be evaluated for health and disposition and provided suitable preventive and therapeutic veterinary care for their condition. Animals that present a known risk of zoonotic diseases (transmissible to humans) or demonstrate dangerous temperaments should not be placed into foster care. The following reference documents related to veterinary healthcare and zoonotic disease control are located at:
a. The University of California at Davis: http://www.vetmed.ucdavis.edu/msmp/katrina.htm
b. US Centers for Disease Control/American Veterinary Medical Association: http://www.avma.org/aa/hurricane/disease_control.asp
3. Any organization may elect to extend the time that animals are listed on the Petfinder site. Once animals are permanently adopted, however, they should be removed from public view on the the Petfinder. Organizations holding pets in extended foster care should consider listing of pets on Petfinder beyond December 15, 2005 to be unrealistic.
4. While animals evacuated out of the affected region were intended to go to licensed animal welfare organizations, some unlicensed or ad-hoc groups are in possession of Katrina animals. These groups should work with their state veterinarian or a licensed animal welfare organization to ensure that they are meeting a reasonable standard of care related to holding animals, veterinary care, and adoption.
Special Considerations:

Sterilization and Euthanasia

Whenever possible, state veterinarians should provide guidance on euthanasia and sterilization if not specified in agreements received from the state of origin. In the absence of such guidance, organizations may need to set their own policies relative to any holding periods prior to sterilization of Katrina displaced animals. Euthanasia may be necessary due to severe health problems or to unsafe temperament. If euthanasia policies are neither specified in the transfer agreement nor provided through the state veterinarian of the destination state, organizations should develop and implement written organizational policies related to euthanasia of Katrina animals within the context of their resources. No organization should be considered negligent for providing euthanasia or sterilization within the scope of this section.

Reunification and Transportation:

If reasonable evidence exists indicating the identity of an owner for any Katrina displaced animal, the animal should be returned to that owner with no adoption fees or transportation fees charged to the owners. At the national and state level, animal welfare organizations, veterinary organizations, government, and private industry must create a cooperative partnership to ensure that transportation costs do not prohibit reunification.

Animals of Undocumented Status:

A number of animals have left the affected areas with groups that may lack sufficient documentation to clearly establish whether these animals were surrendered, available for adoption prior to the disaster, or lost pets that may have owners looking for them. In these cases, organizations are strongly urged to place these animals on the Petfinder Web site for a period of at least 30 days.

Emergency Management and Pet Reunification Systems Development:

Animal protection resources need to be developed in such a manner as to address critical deficiencies that were present during the Hurricane Katrina disaster. General reflections include:
 The National Response Plan must clearly define animal protection authorities and responsibilities within the federal government and mandate state and local animal protection planning efforts that help protect both animals and people.
 We need to expand animal incident management capacity at the national, state and local levels, to ensure an organized response framework for government agencies, animal welfare organizations and volunteers.
 We need to provide better training to animal emergency resources related to the National Incident Management System (NIMS) and incident command systems.
 Microchip identification issues related to microchip frequencies and scanner availability need to be resolved expediently and a national campaign to microchip all pet animals must proceed with high priority.
 A more user-friendly and efficient version of a Web-based disaster lost and found database must be developed and tested to ensure that an effective system is ready for future emergencies.
 A multi-agency, public-private task force on interstate movement of animals during disasters and related pet reunification systems should be considered to formulate recommendations to government officials and legislators.

 
At 11:56 AM, Anonymous paulette said...

Eric,

What's your opinion on how long we should wait to have a dog neutered? We were allowed to take a dog from Lamar-D. after volunteering, and he's on petfinder. I found him in less than 5 minutes of searching on the site. (He's not one of the more common breeds.)

I was told to wait until after the 30 day holding period, but now I'm not sure?

 
At 1:03 PM, Anonymous Eric Rice said...

That is out of my league. I am not an animal expert on those kinds of issues.

 
At 1:42 PM, Anonymous paulette said...

I know you aren't an expert, but who is an expert on disaster etiquette of how long to wait before having an adult foster dog neutered? When we brought him home we were totally willing to wait and try to find his owners for the 30 days. Now people are saying it should be longer, and I see the validity to that argument. However, we have other dogs in our home and weren't planning on keeping an unneutered male for 6 months?

 
At 2:55 PM, Anonymous sandy said...

THANK GOD FOR YOU! You'll never know how much appreciated your efforts are both while you were there and now keeping us updated. What happened to the "little guy" (lab mix) you finally rescued after 2 weeks? Are you taking monetary donations for a future trip back?

 
At 10:17 AM, Anonymous Millicent Carpenter said...

Hi Eric,
I just stared a resource group to help connect foster volunteers to rescues and shelters. So many people are willing to foster, but have no idea how or where to start. This group was developed for that purpose. It is a START....
the group address is:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fosteroradopt/

Any plug you can provide is much appreciated.
Thank you,
Millicent Carpenter
millicentcarpenter@yahoo.com

 
At 6:14 PM, Anonymous Laura said...

I have been following your blog for days now- Excellent! Thank you for all of your, and everyone's, hard work. And also thank you for publishing the truth of the flaws of the large multi-million dollar national animal groups. These stories must be told. I will never again send any of them money but will rather support the smaller groups that got in there and are getting the job done.
I was so thrilled to read you had worked with Dr. Abadi. Up until 3 years ago I had lived in N.O. for 22 years and Dr. Abadi was the best vet I ever had there or any other place I have ever lived. He is an extraordinarily kind man and excellent vet. He is exactly who I would want by my side in a crisis like this. I hope he and his family and staff are all okay. I am so glad he was there for you.
I am going to be in N.O. from Tues. Oct. 11 until Sun. Oct. 16 and have yet to figure out where I can be best utilized in N.O. or St. Bernard Parish. I have a friend to stay with in Uptown N.O. and have rented a compact car. I know the city very well. I have 3 years of shelter work experience with Furry Friends Foundation ( www.furryfriendsfoundation.com ) here in Chicago. I consider pit bulls my specialty along with difficult dogs in general. They are the bulk of my free lance dog walking and pet sitting business, not to mention I have 1 pit and two pit mixes, all rescues, at home. About 255 pounds of pit bull pleasure!
If you have a chance and can suggest a place for me to go in N.O. or St. Bernard I would greatly appreciate your advice.
Thank you again for all you have done. You can contact me at flyingturtles@mindspring.com .

 
At 8:52 PM, Anonymous Eric Rice said...

If it were me I would get him fixed. I am all for giving the dogs back to owners, but a little plastic surgery won't hurt anything.

 
At 7:03 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm all for spay/neuter also. No intact dog that comes into my rescue goes out intact, unless it is medically ill-advised to s/n. That being said, no foster home has the legal right to electively spay/neuter at this point in time, because the foster is NOT the dog's legal owner. Further, IF the male dog Paulette is fostering is a conformation show dog, she could have a lawsuit on her hands if she neuters him before the reclaim period has fully run.

IF the dog is a conformation dog, his show career would be wiped out by neutering because that would disqualify him from showing in AKC breed shows. IF he is already a finished champion, neutering would end his ability to pass his championship qualities on to the next generation. In either event, a show dog's current legal owner would likely have a valid claim against Paulette if she did neuter him before she became his legal owner.

If Paulette's circumstances don't permit a safe environment for both the foster dog and her own personal pets, she should contact a reputable rescue for the foster dog's breed and ask them to foster him until the reclaim period has run. Breed rescue groups can be found at www.akc.org/breeds/rescue.

 
At 9:32 AM, Blogger EricsDogBlog.com said...

Thank you for the updae on spay.neuter. That is why I did not answer. Not my area.

 
At 10:16 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

A woman lived on the Claiborn overpass with her two dogs for six days before she was forced to leave them by the national guard. She left them on the overpass and is desperately looking for them.
Here is a description of the two dogs -- if you know where they are, please contact me (she has no internet access or telephone right now).

"Carmen" is a fawn boxer with a black mask and grey "fu man chu." She is 9 years old. She has a scar on her left hip and weighs 55 Lbs. She loves Cheese or peanut butter.

"Buck" is a male white pit bull with a pink nose. He was wearing a black collar with silver studs. He is 80 Lbs. He has a very broad chest. He likes Cheese.

They will probably stay together as they're very attached.

If you were a rescuer who picked them up please contact me and let me know where they were sent. this is in or around Claiborn Bridge in New Orleans



The owner has photos of the boxer, but not of the pit bull. I don't have photos.

I am the HSUS volunteer who was assigned her call and looked at her house and at the overpass. I believe it is the I-10 Overpass in the 9th Ward -- No. Robertson and/or No. Claiborne Overpass.

Her story moved me so much I want to help her. She's in a shelter now without internet access. She lived with them on the overpass for six days but was bitten by a brown recluse spider (which makes your skin disintegrate and can cause a deadly blood infection). When the national guard rescuers saw her bites they told her she had to get medical attention immediately or she could die, and they wouldn't let her take her dogs, so she had to leave them. She was crying on the phone to me.

 
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